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 Maree
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  Posted 16/02/2008 08:13:25 PM
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Vale is doing well at the start 6 laps in and he is on top of the charts..

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  Posted 16/02/2008 08:14:19 PM
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Westy in 5th and KC not yet out..

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  Posted 16/02/2008 08:14:18 PM
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Vale, James and Colin! Where's Jorge? Add him and we have Fantastic Four!!!!!

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  Posted 16/02/2008 08:16:00 PM
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Bloody hell..Tosser is sticking with Vale!!

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  Posted 16/02/2008 08:16:49 PM
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Tosser just did a 1.38!!!

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  Posted 16/02/2008 08:17:53 PM
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James's flying!!!

That Tech 3 is fast!

Vale hasn't wake up totally yet   !

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  Posted 16/02/2008 08:35:24 PM
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Westy is hanging in there at 8..

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  Posted 16/02/2008 08:38:09 PM
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Stuck!!!!

How's it now??? Is Vale still 1st?

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  Posted 16/02/2008 08:41:34 PM
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Connection has stalled so who knows whats happening out there now..

Uccio could be in front for all we know now..

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  Posted 16/02/2008 08:51:24 PM
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Go Uccio!!!!

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  Posted 16/02/2008 08:52:12 PM
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LMAO @ tosser  smile/!2214_EM2.gif

Good to see Rossi back in #1 spot !   http://www.aceboard.net/kator/smiley31.abgif

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  Posted 16/02/2008 08:56:05 PM
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We'll see Vale 1st a lot this season!!  smile/!hinhin.gif    

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  Posted 16/02/2008 09:10:22 PM
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Got LT back!

Vale 1st (1'40''712)
James 2nd
Colin 3rd
Unknown #1 guy 4th
Hayden 5th
West 8th
Jorge 12th


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  Posted 16/02/2008 09:21:54 PM
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Vale still 1
KC 2
Tosser 3

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  Posted 16/02/2008 09:35:29 PM
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Vale ...1st place on 1.40.641

Dovi 10th

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  Posted 16/02/2008 10:08:35 PM
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Crash.net's Jerez test blog: Friday.


Friday, 15th February 2008

Crash.net columnist Mike Nicks is running an exclusive blog throughout this weekend's official MotoGP test at Jerez - which starts on Saturday morning - check back regularly to read his behind-the-scenes snippets from 'Grand Prix Zero'...

Friday pm - Pneumatics Becomes the New Buzzword

If tyres was the F-word in the paddock last year, this season it's definitely the rush to pneumatic valve-gear which is provoking chatter. But is pneumatic valve gear really necessary in MotoGP?

Some paddock pundits are saying that while this form of valve control might give an extra 1,000rpm at the top end, higher revs increase fuel consumption at a time when everyone's trying to coax a race distance from their 21 litres of fuel.

So let's hear a crew chief's opinion. Pete Benson, who tended Nicky Hayden's Honda to the championship in 2006, is firmly in favour of pneumatics.

"They give you a lot more scope for making radical cam profiles, which helps with things such as acceleration," he says. "The problem with a spring is getting it to do what you want for a reasonable mileage. There seems to be a lot of inconsistency in spring quality at the moment."

Sadly, for an engineer so firmly pro-pneumatics, Benson won't be using HRC Honda's version of this technology at Jerez this weekend - and possibly for several races into the season. The new engine has proved problematical in testing, so Nicky and Dani Pedrosa will be relying on old technology to start the year.


Friday pm - Freddie and Eddie's Self-Cures

"Remember Freddie and Eddie." That's the advice that Honda HRC media man Iain MacKay has offered to Dani Pedrosa, who is recovering from arm injuries sustained during the winter.

According to 'Mac', the 1980s' world champions Freddie Spencer and Eddie Lawson always refused to race until injuries had recovered, and consequently enjoy excellent health today. Other riders who insisted on riding wounded - Mac named them but I won't out of kindness - are in pain 'as soon as the sun slips behind a cloud'.

Headstrong youngsters might care to reflect on that.


Friday pm - The Apprenticeship: 36 Races

Another guy who passed on a useful comment in the paddock here today was Dean Miller, sports physio who this year is tending John Hopkins and Chris Vermeulen.

"It takes 36 races to get competitive in this sport," he counselled. His advice is directed at British fans who might expect too much from James Toseland after the euphoria of his third-fastest test at Phillip Island recently.

"Thirty-six races - that's two years!" I pointed out. "Name me someone who's got to the top faster," Dean said. "Casey Stoner won the title in only his second year in MotoGP," I said. The reply: "Yeah, but after he done plenty of seasons in 125s and 250s."

Point taken. So cool it a little, Brit fans.

Friday am - Toseland's ride justified

James Toseland will roll into Jerez today content that he has already justified his place on the MotoGP grid with impressive performances in winter testing. The critics who claimed that Hervé Poncharal, boss of the Yamaha Tech III team, should never have hired a superbike rider have turned sides and are now lauding Toseland's calm approach and increasingly quick times.

Now Poncharal will be asking Yamaha this weekend when they can provide his boys – the Texan Colin Edwards is his other rider - with the pneumatic-valve engine now being used by Fiat Yamaha factory riders Valentino Rossi and Jorge Lorenzo. Thus far Edwards and Toseland have performed on the old valve-spring motor, which appears to lack maybe 4-5mph on the straight compared to the pneumatic version.

It's a delicate question. The Yamaha factory riders have naturally handled testing chores on the pneumatic. And no team wants to be handed a half-developed engine that breaks frequently and for which spares are scarce. A MotoGP rider requires a minimum of four to five complete engines, plus a bank of spares, to compete effectively.

Meanwhile, Toseland will ride the valve-spring job in this three-day session that they call Round Zero. Riders take to the track tomorrow, and on Sunday battle to set fastest lap and win a
BMW Z4 M Roadster. In a way it's harmless fun - they test for three more days before the first round at Qatar in March - but whoever performs well in this 40-minute session leaves a psychological scar on his opponents.

Can Valentino win the car? Yamaha has made huge progress with its YZR-M1 this winter, and Rossi will want to unsettle Ducati and Casey Stoner by proving that he can again run at race-winning speed.

Let's hope it works out like that, because Dani Pedrosa's accident in winter testing may blunt the world No. 2's early-season charge on the Repsol Honda. Only Rossi and Yamaha can prevent the series from becoming another red rout, it would seem at this stage.

But racing is full of surprises – no one forecast Stoner's championship performance last year. On Sunday we will start to see the truth.


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  Posted 16/02/2008 10:12:50 PM
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Crash.net's Jerez test blog: Saturday.

Saturday, 16th February 2008

Crash.net columnist Mike Nicks is running an exclusive blog throughout this weekend's official MotoGP test at Jerez - check back regularly to read his behind-the-scenes snippets from 'Grand Prix Zero'...

Saturday am - Toseland Gets to Work Early

MotoGP newcomer James Toseland got to work with astonishing speed on his Tech III Yamaha in testing at Jerez today.

By noon, only two hours after the track opened, the reigning world superbike champion had covered 23 laps of the 2.75-mile circuit, and was second fastest in 1 minute 40.909 seconds. This made him less than two-tenths slower than the quickest man on the track, the MotoGP legend Valentino Rossi!

Let's not get too ecstatic: this is only the first morning of a three-day test. But even so, Toseland's commitment and confidence appear way above that of a rookie who has yet to compete in a MotoGP race.

Toseland's early pace compares with Rossi's 2005 lap record of 1 minute 40.596 seconds, set on a 990cc Yamaha, and Loris Capirossi's 2006 pole time of 1 minute 39.064 seconds on the Marlboro Ducati.

As if to celebrate his new link with Hervé Poncharal's Tech III outfit, Toseland recently bought a four-bedroom villa in the south of France, just 100 kilometres from the team's base in Provence.


Saturday am - Suzuki Makes Passing Easier

Rizla Suzuki's more powerful GSV-R engine should enable riders Chris Vermeulen and Loris Capirossi to overtake rivals easier than was possible with last year's bike, according to team chief Paul Denning.

"Our bike had great stability on the brakes last year, but it lacked some acceleration," he said at this morning's team breakfast. "But the factory has done some great work on the engine, and this is now a fast motorcycle. It's easier to outbrake your competition if you are alongside them rather than 20 yards behind."

Vermeulen will try to qualify better this season to improve his chances of winning more races: thus far the 25-year-old Australian has recorded three poles and three podium finishes, but just a solitary victory.

"Chris has never been a one-lap merchant, and that's hurt him at some tracks," Denning said. "He needs to be on the front two rows week in and week out. So in qualifying he has to trust in the bike, the tyres and himself from the first corner."

New signing Capirossi hasn't yet stunned in winter testing, but the team is already feeling the benefit of the 34-year-old Italian's recent MotoGP experience with Ducati, who are at the forefront of electronics developments.

"Loris' descrïptions of what he would like the machine to be doing are excellent,” Denning said. "The accuracy of his comments on the chassis, swinging arm and geometry changes is superb."

Both Suzuki and Kawasaki are battling to bust up the Ducati-Yamaha-Honda grip on race wins: impossible to say yet, in the white-hot aura of MotoGP, whether they can make the breakthrough.


Saturday am - Kawasaki Start with a Big Bang

Kawasaki have suddenly become synonymous with a screamer firing order for their ZX-RR engine, but the company will in fact use the older big-bang configuration in early-season MotoGP races.

There's still a question mark over tyre wear with the screamer layout, it became evident in talks with competition manager Michael Bartholemy at the team launch at Jerez last night.

"We were the first team to run a screamer engine with pneumatic valve gear," he said. "Our test rider Olivier Jacque said it has many advantages, but we will not give it to the riders yet because things around it are not yet right.

"People went to big-bang engines [with the old 990cc MotoGP bikes] to save tyres. We've sent our screamer engine to Europe for mapping, but the one thing you can't find out on a dyno is how an engine affects tyres."

So riders John Hopkins and Anthony West will start the season with the big-bang motor, and may not get the screamer until about round five, after Jacque has approved it.

There's much else happening in this team that believes it has a bike to match Ducati's Desmosedici. Jacque will today test a new clutch, and modifications to the gearbox will eliminate shuddering on downshifts. The three riders will also test a new electronics package, developed with Marelli.

"It gives you more options, and allows you to set up the bike more to the rider's individual requests," Bartholemy said. "He might want the power to be a little smoother here, or more aggressive there."

Bartholemy is also launching a major test programme, using Jacque's development talents to the full. The Frenchman will run a total of 13 test sessions this year, including several at Jerez, three at Estoril, and one at the new Indianapolis circuit in the USA.

All this makes even more frustrating the winter leg injury to newcomer Hopkins, the man signed to win races. Hopkins may complete only a part of this weekend's three-day test at Jerez, and his drive to reach the top of the podium will inevitably be delayed until later in the season.


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  Posted 17/02/2008 01:25:35 AM
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Randy 1st now...(1'40''223)
Vale 2nd

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